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PostSubject: Why Are Some Forums here...   17th February 2008, 4:28 pm

Closed off?

Do I have to go through some hazing ritual first to get in? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   17th February 2008, 4:35 pm

Hi Jotaro! And welcome to SOVA.

I have the same problem too. I believe it might have to do with SONVA spies coming onto this board. So they've closed off the SOVA related forums to some members, until they know they can be fully trusted.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   17th February 2008, 4:36 pm

Uh...okay.

A fanbased faction sends out spies...accomplishes what?
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   17th February 2008, 4:43 pm

You have to post in the introduction thread before you can have full access Very Happy

At least that's what I think Lisa told me....

So did posting here fix it?
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   17th February 2008, 4:51 pm

Not for me....
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   17th February 2008, 4:52 pm

I dunno, shouldn't SOVA be more...open?

I mean, that's usually a good idea for protests.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   17th February 2008, 4:57 pm

Maybe? But look what being open did to the Bulbagarden branch of SOVA. They shut down our most effective branch after we posted there what we discussed here (though it looks like SONVA also had something to do with it).

IMO, it's better to be as discreet as possible (even if it may be at my own expense).
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   17th February 2008, 5:00 pm

BMG closed us down because we were a possible liability to them.

If Duart sued like they claimed, who would they go after? A top-secret forum they can't even see, or BMG which is vocal?
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   17th February 2008, 9:47 pm

well....im pretty sure it will just take some time

have patience.....i think we just want to make sure we have good members and people who are honest
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 1:07 am

That welcome thread thing was only actually active in the first day of this forum...Lisa just...tends to forget everytime I make the correction. XD
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 3:02 am

It's really not a bad thing that we lost the BMG branch. Too many naysayers and people from SONVA were spying on us there. With this forums we can control our information! Nothing gets out and our plans can't be spoiled. We have to watch out for spies, which is why new members need to be checked out before getting into our forums.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 7:57 am

Er...spies?

That sounds really paranoid. I don't think SONVA has any "spies" who would harm the campaign. I mean, because have you seen the SONVA thread on SPPF? They never do anything really.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 9:56 am

They do things to stop us all the time. Because they have no lives and yes they would and probally did send spies to our forums.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 10:27 am

Anyway, who is Bob H? I see him on these forums, and he acts suspicious. He never posts, and always just lurks around reading these forums. I have a feeling he was sent here by SONVA. I'm worried.

And read their SPPf thread. They have a lot of discussion about our private forums there.

Anyway, they're always trying to stop us. When they find out we're contacting a certain company (DuArt, Nintendo, PUSA, etc.) they will immediately pick up the phone and tell the company that we are no good and not to listen to us. I hate when they do that.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 12:03 pm

Rocket Grunt wrote:
They do things to stop us all the time. Because they have no lives and yes they would and probally did send spies to our forums.

What have they done to "stop us".
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 12:07 pm

1. Why are you defending the members of SONVA, in the first place?

2. If you truly are a SOVA member, then I think it would just be best for us to leave SONVA alone. And this goes for everyone. Seriously, I remember The Power of Pika made a post on Bulbagarden a long time ago, explaining about what SONVA was for - and basically it's just for trying to get Pokemon USA to keep all the music in the dub, and for trying to get Pokemon DVDs regularly released in other countries. SONVA's main goal had nothing to do with us (at least not on Serebii anyway).

Because seriously, if we go around making possibly false accusations at SONVA, when they might not even be "spying" on us or trying to stop our plans - that's only gonna make matters worse.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 12:14 pm

PokemonTrainerLisa wrote:
1. Why are you defending the members of SONVA, in the first place?

2. If you truly are a SOVA member, then I think it would just be best for us to leave SONVA alone. And this goes for everyone. Seriously, I remember The Power of Pika made a post on Bulbagarden a long time ago, explaining about what SONVA was for - and basically it's just for trying to get Pokemon USA to keep all the music in the dub, and for trying to get Pokemon DVDs regularly released in other countries. SONVA's main goal had nothing to do with us (at least not on Serebii anyway).

Because seriously, if we go around making possibly false accusations at SONVA, when they might not even be "spying" on us or trying to stop our plans - that's only gonna make matters worse.

That's what I mean.

The whole "SONVA HAS SPIES!" is ridiculous and make us look like MCarthy.

Just because I support SOVA doesn't mean I hate anyone who opposes us.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 12:32 pm

Oh....

Well, why didn't ya say so? LOL.


But anyway, I don't know who started the thing with "OMG! SONVA has a spy here! 111". I think Lapras said that in a thread a while back. Hidden Mew tried to help, but everything just resulted a pointless debate.

It doesn't matter who started it though. Because no one's gonna be saying things like that anymore. If anyone does, Neku, you have my permission to bring out the ban hammer and start banning people.

But anyway, guys, play nice. Okay?


And remember:

SONVA DOES NOT HAVE SPIES OVER HERE!!


And even if they did have someone spying on us, it would only make them look bad for doing something awful like that. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 1:27 pm

Jotaro wrote:

That's what I mean.

The whole "SONVA HAS SPIES!" is ridiculous and make us look like MCarthy.

Just because I support SOVA doesn't mean I hate anyone who opposes us.

But you are the one that started defending SONVA in the first place.
It's like Lisa said, if you are a real SOVA member then you shouldn't care at all about SONVA.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 1:57 pm

I think it all started because Jotaro asked why some of the forums were closed off. In response, I was the one who first brought up SONVA, and I'm sorry for doing so. But I do recall one person saying that a SONVA member had quoted something in the sppf branch that was only posted on this site.

But to answer your first question Jotaro, the reason why SOVA has to remain so discreet here is because of all the grief we've been put through. It's not just the BMG club closing down. It's members like Habunake and WPM, who have repeatedly gone into SOVA's own club thread just to cause trouble. And look what happened on Livejournal. Naysayers posting under anonymous usernames kept spamming up that section. And Rocket Grunt actually lost his/her posting privelages because of them. We as SOVA members simply need a place where we can discuss our plans in peace, and not have to deal with those kinds of distractions.

The restrictions placed on these forums may not keep out all the riffraff, but it's the best we can do for now, and it keeps the distractions to a minimum. I'm sure that once you've gained the full trust of SOVA members here, you'll gain full access to the forums as well.

BTW, I'm still blocked off from the SOVA related forums.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 2:22 pm

That's weird.

I don't know why you'd be blocked, Ampharos....


Anyway, I'll talk to Shane and see if he can fix that for you.

I'd do it myself, but I'm not very good with this Admin program thing. I don't know how it works. ^^;

EDIT: Ampharos, I think I fixed the permissions thing. You should be able to access and post on all the forums now.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 2:54 pm

Yes, it worked! Thank you Lisa...
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 2:56 pm

You're welcome, Ampharos!

And now you can finally see what our current projects are! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 3:30 pm

ampharos181 wrote:

It's members like Habunake and WPM, who have repeatedly gone into SOVA's own club thread just to cause trouble.

Haha, I remember Habunake and WPM posting on the BMG board (I just guest-browsed it). WPM's website is pretty funny how he tries to claim stuff all the time, and Habunake (who I think goes by King K. Rool now, judging by the postcounts) made that one robot thing...with the Bidoof head. That was pretty funny.

And I mean, they may have been trolling, but I don't think they've impeded SOVA's goals. Unless they work for PUSA or something which I highly doubt. Plus, I saw one of the trolls have a JoJo avatar one time...so, props atleast in their taste. Nor do I think they're completely immoral people either, since besides the VA switch I agree with alot of the things they said on BMG.

I dunno, I just think the whole "secret society" bit is kinda goofy. If WPM or any troll comes here, all you'd have to do is perma-IP ban them and case closed. Especially since SOVA's entire mission is completely based off trying to convince PUSA to change the VA's, and rally support.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Are Some Forums here...   18th February 2008, 3:43 pm

Well I think Lisa had a survey up about opening up some forums. I, personally, think we should open some. I see the slight necessity of something semi-private though.
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