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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   4th August 2008, 11:56 pm

Well shitdamn.

Sorry...had to take advantage of the opportunity.

Took her long enough, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 12:08 am

Not to point fingers, but I wouldn't be surprised if this whole hoax was the work of some /b/tards.
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 12:18 am

I can't believe this.... Sad

I'm sorry, guys. I tried to convince everyone here that this rumor was true, when really....I wasn't even sure about it myself. No

But it was such good news, I wanted it to be true so badly that I had myself convinced that it WAS true. Crying or Very sad


Anyway, I can't believe someone would be so cruel to not only pretend to be Veronica and email her fans, but to post on her guestbook, trying to convince other fans to believe that this rumor is true. It just goes to show you how cruel the Pokemon fandom can be. Sad

But seriously though, after Veronica was replaced, I never wanted her to be hurt like that again. And now, she's probably crying her eyes out, just like me. Crying or Very sad

And to think, this all happened because someone out there wanted to have their "fun" with SOVA and with Veronica. If this is somebody's idea of fun, I think they deserve to be punished for what they've done, and for everyone they've hurt.

I mean, I can't let whoever's responsible for this just get away with it! They have to pay for what they've done! Evil or Very Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 1:01 am

Figures...
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 1:10 am

Son of a a frickin'... -.-; Goddammit. We got OWNED. Man, now I'm seriously pissed. All my hopes came crashing down in one stroke of a stupid blog entry. Damn you, Sarah Natochenny, damn you. >o (Sorry, I know it's not HER fault exactly. >.>)

Well, doesn't think mean we have to work twice as hard, now, to get Veronica back? D: Verrrrooooniiiiiiicaaaaa.
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 1:14 am

I agree. It isn't Sarah's fault but we still want Veronica back. We need to work harder at this. If we truly want to suceed we need to make sure we stay active and continue with our projects.

I need to update the SOVA site. I will do that now.

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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 3:18 am

Im devistated, all i can say rite now is i wanna smack someone for this :S i dont really wanna say much else other than for a while Ash was alive to me again, now sarahs reign of terror continues.

Darkblade has sent me the dvd were sending to Pokemon Japan, ill watch it n then let everyone know....i suppose theirs no better time to send it then now, seeing as im crushed
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 4:00 am

It is sarahs fault, we wouldnt want veronica back so bad if it wasnt for sarah ! Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 4:16 am

That's true, considering she is the current VA and she did audition for the role of Ash.

However, Sarah wasn't responsible for the initial VA switch in the first place. So that wasn't her fault.

Pokemon USA are the ones to blame for that awful decision!! =(


And if you ask me, I say it's about time we came up with some better, more effective projects. Because, to sum things up: we've tried phone calls and gotten nowhere with neither Pokemon USA, nor DuArt. we've tried emails and have received either no response, or a lame, automatic response. And none of that helps us at all. To be honest, we haven't gotten anywhere so far.

Although, thank goodness that DuArt was decent enough to hire Rachael and Maddie to do small-roles on Pokemon. But still, that isn't exactly SOVA's main goal. Yes, we want the original VAs back, be we want them back in EVERY episode, voicing their ORIGINAL characters!!


First of all, what we need here, is some kind of plan to get Veronica back voicing Ash, and very soon (if possible). My theory is that, if we could get Veronica voicing Ash again, then maybe DuArt will allow the other VAs to voice their own characters again too.

Okay now, we NEED to make this happen somehow or another! Any ideas, guys? Let's brainstorm! And don't be shy, tell me anything which you believe would be an effective project for us.

Also, another priority here is recruiting more members. Because, in order to do something as big as getting the original voice cast back doing their roles on Pokemon - we're gonna need a lot more members. Someone has to help us do this!


Also, if anyone's looking for something new to say in their letters to Pokemon USA, try saying this: "The fact that the original voice actors were replaced makes no sense. If you had intentions of doing this, then why didn't you simply do it back in Johto Journeys, or Advanced Battle for that matter? Why did you wait until you had received the license to dub Pokemon? If you had intended on doing this from the beginning, then clearly, you could've replaced the original cast earlier, by forcing 4Kids to make this decision in someway."

Heh, I'd like to see Pokemon USA's answer to THAT!! Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 4:25 am

I completely agree! I've already made a weak attempt at recruitment by putting one of your SOVA linkage sigs on my profile on other forums. Hasn't gotten any new members but it's still on my profiles nonetheless.
Well, Szlemm got me hooked on here from Youtube. xD I don't know, maybe that's a good place to start. I also checked out your thread on here about Youtube promotions. :] I liked your vids, Lisa. So I'm currently trying to make a promotional AMV for SOVA. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 4:27 am

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I liked your vids, Lisa. So I'm currently trying to make a promotional AMV for SOVA. xD
Aww, thanks Dark Master!! ^_^

And that's awesome! Good luck with your promotional video! =D

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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 4:30 am

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I liked your vids, Lisa. So I'm currently trying to make a promotional AMV for SOVA. xD
Aww, thanks Dark Master!! ^_^

And that's awesome! Good luck with your promotional video! =D

:] Of course.

And thanks. xD Anything for SOVA. I'll probably need it, seeing as I'm new to making AMVs. Do you think Born To Be A Winner is an appropriate song? xD I couldn't find much else.
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 4:37 am

Oh, "Born To Be A Winner" is a great song, especially the full version! XD

For an alternative, you could also use these songs:

"I Believe" (Master Quest theme)
"Unbeatable" (Advanced Battle theme - I love this song, by the way!)


I think that any of those 3 songs would be perfect for a SOVA AMV. If you need one of these songs, just let me know. I could send it to you, because I have A LOT of Pokemon songs on my computer. Very Happy

Of course, I'd also suggest using "We Will Meet Again", but Mistress Puff already made a SOVA AMV using that song. And wow, it's amazing how popular it became on YouTube!! XD


Also, if you're going for an emotional impact, look no further than: "If My Tears Could Bring You Back To Me" (First Movie soundtrack)

A while back, there was a Pokemon AMV which used that song. It was called "Pokemon voice actor tribute", and it had many emotional scenes from the anime. That particular video made a lot of hits on YouTube! It was really, really popular! ^^

Now imagine if we could create SOVA AMVs that became that popular, then I'm sure we could get lots of people to join us.

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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 4:41 am

Ah, thanks for the suggestions! 8D I love Born To Be A Winner also, but so far, it's not working out so well. xD I thought about Unbeatable but I wasn't sure. I'll probably wind up trying the other two as well. ;] Thanks Lisa.

(And yeah! I just watch MistressPuff's AMV and wow! Best AMV I've seen in a while!)
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 4:48 am

Sure! No problem! ^^

Just let me know if you need anymore help. Very Happy


By the way, as you can see, I'm trying to get over the fact that the Veronica rumor was sorta proven false. The reason I say "sorta" is because I still haven't heard anything from Veronica herself about this. And you know, there might still be a chance that the rumor is true. That is, if Sarah wasn't informed about being replaced/fired (heck, the original cast wasn't informed either, until it was too late).

But anyway, in order to be 100% sure of what's happening with D/P Battle Dimension, the only thing we can do is wait and see. August 30th is when the Dustox episode is airing, supposedly. But remember, we'll probably find out the episode title early, since the titles are usually posted online. ^^

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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 5:06 am

OKay well as Dark Master said i recruited off youtube so this is definatly one major way of finding members, I looked at the comment she made on a video and told her about sova. So we all need to get into recruiting mode rite now!

I honestly dont think emails and letters are any good at this point, The pokeballs weve been sending havnt been rejected by duart at all so i think we all need to get behind this project at once seeing as once we sent many balls rachel,maddie and other 4kids va's started returning!!!

Also the other project about informing the pokemon company in japan about the switch and fans heartbreak at what is happening to the dub is going ahead, Mitch has sent me the dvd which im currently downloading and ill inform everyone how to watch it soon, i suggest everyone write/draw/recording messages or anything they want to say to The pokemon company in japan and PM them to me and ill send it along with the dvd!!

Hopefully they can help out
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 7:38 am

I should have known. It was always in the back of my mind that this was fake, somethings just didn't add up. I'm think it's pretty apparent Pokemon USA is never gonna let the old voice actors play the old roles, unless by someway, someone from the current cast quits. And you know that's never gonna happen.

Right now, I'm just tired of getting my hopes up. There's more important things to get tied to than a cartoon. Good luck to SOVA, but I'm done.
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 8:39 am

I have a few friends who I could get to join SOVA. I think our letters and emails should focus on informing DuArt that there is no excuse not to recast the old VAs. I don't care what the deal with contracts was in the past, but what matters now is that the VAs are there. Now we just need them in their former roles. If Rachael and Maddie both returned to their roles, then I'm sure Veronica would return in a second.

PS- What confuses me the most is why the real Veornica has been gone this whole time!
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 9:10 am

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I'm really upset. I don't blame Sarah, cause she wasn't responsible for the voice switch. I blame PUSA. If their faces doesn't look like money maybe we still have our voice actors. I feel bad for DuArt cause they're in the middle of the mess. I'm glad though that DuArt is willing hire some of the voice actors. What if Duart really wants to give their jobs back but it's PUSA getting in the way. PUSA is the one who makes the final decision.

This shows that we need work harder as a group. All I can say is cheer up. That person who did this will get bad karma. I'll start making my own projects to get more members. Let's try getting more members.
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 9:13 am

Agreed im gonna find more people on youtube aswell, i say we flood duart with pokeballs everyone try to send at least one!
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 9:22 am

I'm sorry, but I still think Veronica is coming back. But, I will be ready on August 30th if the rumor isn't true.

Good luck with your AMVs!
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 9:40 am

IM hopin its true to after all if duarts keepin everytin about their shows private then maybe sarah saying she wasnt fired or quit is part of her agreement to keep it shhh!

but then again i dont know rite now,

RIP ASH Ketchum untill veronica comes back
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 10:10 am

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IM hopin its true to after all if duarts keepin everytin about their shows private then maybe sarah saying she wasnt fired or quit is part of her agreement to keep it shhh!

but then again i dont know rite now,

RIP ASH Ketchum untill veronica comes back

I know you're saying that to stay positive, but if that were true I think the agreement would be just not to say anything at all. I had my doubts when someone noticed the similar signatures of Ryan and Veronica's emails, and also, doesn't Veronica just usually sign as 'Veronica'? So this Ryan Morris guy is behind the entire thing... I'm not giving up till I know the truth... about everything. Mad Evil or Very Mad confused
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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 10:46 am

Alright guys, let me face you to the harsh reality of why Veronica is not back yet.

Barely anyone (despite some efforts by probably 5 or so people) is doing anything to convince DuArt/PUSA to rehire Veronica. And this unfortunately might include Veronica herself, but more on that later.

First, I want to tell you a story that I know some of you have heard before. It is about the Sonic voice actor campaign. As many of you know, I'm an avid fan of Ryan Drummond and have been actively compaigning to get him back as the voice of Sonic (after he was unfairly fired without reason or being told a few years ago - sound familiar?). Our success began back in August of last year when I, along with probably 30-40 other people, began an active e-mail campaign. In the e-mails we included such things as links to a petition with nearly 5,000 signatures, a poll that showed over 400 people preferring Ryan while only 30 preferred his new voice actor, etc. We continually bombarded Sega with e-mails on the issue every weekday for a few weeks. Harsh? When you take into account how nice we'd been to Sega about the issue for the 2 previous years, it wasn't.

So, how big of an impact did this have? We had so much of an impact that the PRESIDENT of Sega of America, when he was interviewed about Sonic a few weeks after our e-mail campaign began, mentioned the voice issue TWICE in the interview, without even being asked about it at all in the first place. Unfortunately, he stated that he could not do anything about the cast as apparently Sega of Japan was in control. Yep, Japan.

Perhaps our biggest impact came in the form of what was known as the "Ryan for Brawl" campaign. Just days after Sonic's inclusion in Super Smash Brothers Brawl was announced, we began phoning up Nintendo (yes, Nintendo, since they created Brawl) requesting that Ryan be given the chance to voice Sonic in this game. They seemed willing to listen to us, unlike Sega. Nearly a hundred YouTube videos were made in regards to the issue, news spread like wildfire, Ryan himself commented on the issue (and contacted Nintendo himself about this). Reports say that over 2000 calls were made between the months of October-February. Unfortunately, while rumor has it Nintendo tried to negotiate with Sega, our requests were left unanswered and Jason Griffith (Sonic's new voice after the switch) was left in Brawl.

As this was a huge blow (especially since apparently Sega said no to rumored negotiations despite the huge fan demand), a lot of people gave up. However, there were still some of us who trudged on. Many phone calls were made to Sega of America, despite their not being in control of the voices (they could easily get in contact with whoever was though). So many phone calls were made that when people called and said they wanted to speak about Sonic, the operators at Sega asked, "Is this about Ryan Drummond?"

Our main mission however was to contact the people who were directly in charge, aka Sega of Japan. To cut a long story short, many actual phone calls were made by myself and others to Sega of Japan about the issue. Many times they claimed they were not in control either. Eventually we were able to contact Sonic Team themselves and have gotten confirmation that they are the ones in control. A couple of my friends and I also spoke with the director of the upcoming game "Sonic Unleashed" personally as well.

Long history, I know, and that's not even all of it. But as you can see, we Sonic fans have hit Sega hard.

But do you want to know probably the biggest reason that kept us in there fighting, despite the nearly 3 years of hardships? Ryan Drummond himself. Ever since he was fired, he has remained an active member of the Sonic community. He is truly a huge fan of the little blue guy himself. He treated the job as, well, much more than just a job. He truly loved voicing the hedgehog, and this passion was visible to all of us fans. Not only did he show his love for Sonic, but he continued to contact Sega themselves about the issue (and even Nintendo about Brawl). Yes, that's right. Despite being fired in such a cruel way, like the Pokemon VAs were, his love for Sonic kept him in touch with Sega in hopes of negotiating to get the job back. And guess what? He has stated just a few weeks ago that he and his agents have indeed begun having meeting with Sega now.

Wow, that's a lot of typing. Anyone who actually read all that... I hope you understand the point I am trying to make: many MANY Sonic fans actively campaigned, along with Ryan himself, despite all the setbacks such as Sega's stubborness and naysayers saying that Sega would never listen to us.

But not only that, Ryan Drummond himself contacted Sega. Now, I'm not trying to point fingers, but have we heard anything about Veronica trying to contact DuArt? Heck, the first person of the main cast who lept at the chance to work back on Pokemon when allowed (after the apparent 2-year clause) was Rachael Lillis. I have so much respect for Rachael as I know it tooks a huge amount of guts to walk up to the people who fired you like that first and ask for a side role. You know what this means? She, like Ryan and Sonic, truly cares about Pokemon. And I cannot begin to tell how proud of her I am, and how thankful for her true love of Pokemon. That despite all of this, 2 years later she returns to what she loves, simply because she truly loves it. It really brings a tear of admiration and gratitude to my eye.

Now, on to Veronica. If Veronica wants to get Ash back, then SHE needs to be doing something about it. SHE needs to be contacting DuArt. SHE is the one who can ultimately make the difference. I have no idea if she has confronted DuArt at all, but if she has not, I will say that I honestly am very disappointed in her. If she honestly wants the job back, she will fight for it herself. She CANNOT just sit around waiting for a phone call. It won't come. SHE needs to be the one to make that call.

Now, as for SOVA. If every member here began actively participating in a certain campaign, despite there only being 80 or so members, a HUGE impact will be made. Imagine 80 e-mails per week going out to DuArt asking for Veronica back. Imagine tons of phone calls being made, so many that when they answer they ask, "Is this about Veronica Taylor?" If SOVA wants to actually succeed, huge action must be done. There cannot just be 5 or 6 people here who actually do anything, while the others just offer their support. I myself am guilty of barely doing anything lately as I have been so involved with the Sonic campaign. But if I see that many members of SOVA really want to actually fight for the original VAs, I will join in now as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Veronica Taylor Rumor   5th August 2008, 10:59 am

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