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PostSubject: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 2:37 am

Okay guys, here's what has been going on. On Saturday, I got an email from Mistress Puff.

And she told me something important that Rachael Lillis had said to her.

However, I couldn't say anything about this at the time, because Mistress Puff made me promise that I wouldn't tell anyone about this (so that she wouldn't make Rachael upset or betray her trust). But now that Mike Pollock has pretty much said everything (without actually giving the specifics, lol), I thought now would be the best time to let everyone in SOVA know. However, I want this to stay inside of SOVA, and not get out to people who would use this against our cause....

Anyway, you guys are familiar with the gym leader, Maylene, right? Well, Rachael Lills auditioned for that role and she actually got the part! That's right! Rachael is gonna be on Pokemon again!! So, after about 4 more episodes of D/P Battle Dimension, Rachael is gonna be voicing Maylene! Isn't that awesome?! : D

But yeah, as everyone was discussing in the other thread, it seems like someone or something is preventing Rachael Lillis (and the rest of the cast) from getting their original roles back.


*sigh* Personally, I would really like to get to the bottom of this. As I desperately want Veronica Taylor back as Ash. Especially now, since we're getting closer and closer to D/P 74 (the very dramatic, Pikachu VS Raichu episode). I just have a really bad feeling that Sarah will mess that episode up, and I don't wanna go through that again - I mean, what I went through when I watched "Cutting The Ties That Bind" from Battle Frontier (Sarah was so horrible, that I cried during the original airing of that episode).

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 2:38 am

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 2:39 am

Yep, it's true guys!! Lisa can vouch for my freaked out reaction when I first found out XDD

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 2:49 am

Yeah, I couldn't resist! I just had to let Brian and Trainer Rachel know about this, so they were the first people I told! LOL. XD

I mean, I couldn't just keep this amazing news to myself, because I was so excited. It's funny, because my jaw actually dropped when I read that email from Mistress Puff. I was like this "O______O".

ROFL. XD!!!!!!


Anyway, this truly is amazing news for SOVA. One of the VAs whom we've worked so hard for, was finally given a chance to work on the Pokemon USA dub and she was actually hired. Can you believe it? : D

I mean, sure, Rachael isn't voicing Jessie yet, but hey - I have faith that with a little more time, we can make it possible for the original cast to get their roles back. I know we can do it, guys!! ^_^

(but don't get TOO carried away by all this excitement guys, I mean let's not throw a party just yet - that can wait until we actually get all the original cast back doing their rightful roles) XD

So in the meantime, let's continue with the Pokeball project and continue to email/call DuArt.

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 3:00 am

I feel so special!! <3

Anyway, this is super awesome news!! It was hard not to say anything but now that it's out, I can finally say...I'm freakin' happy!! I just can't believe you cried because of Sarah's performance Lisa.

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 3:24 am

... *sigh*

Okay, so let me get this straight. Rachael Lillis has been hiding this info from us? If that's true... then that means the VAs haven't been exactly truthful with us. -_- This also supports my suspicion of the old VAs lying to us. If this is true, then I'm giving up on SOVA I'm afraid. We've been trying to help the old VAs get their job back, but if they don't even trust us, then fuck them! I'm not going to play any part in this if the old VAs can't be honest with us.
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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 3:27 am

This is good news and also the best early b'day present i could get!! Im happy this is a giant leap for Sova and towards our goal!!! Pokeballs are gonna keep on being sent :D

And geoffry not to get off topic but i really dont think it matters who lied/missinformed or misunderstood and who did what, we all want the show back as it was and things happen along the road thats just how life is. Its best to just get back up and continue on. After all thats what pokemon has taught me, To push aside anything bad and keep on running towards my goals!!!

This is one MAJOR step towards our goal haha not step sorry GIGANTIC SNORLAX LEAP!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 3:54 am

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... *sigh*

Okay, so let me get this straight. Rachael Lillis has been hiding this info from us? If that's true... then that means the VAs haven't been exactly truthful with us. -_- This also supports my suspicion of the old VAs lying to us. If this is true, then I'm giving up on SOVA I'm afraid. We've been trying to help the old VAs get their job back, but if they don't even trust us, then fuck them! I'm not going to play any part in this if the old VAs can't be honest with us.

How have they been hiding anything from us or lying to us?
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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 4:07 am

Notice: Please note that my post is mostly hypothetical. I'm not saying that anyone's lying or anything. I'm just expressing my thoughts and how I feel about the situation. Please, PLEASE do not jump on me saying that I should burn in Hell for saying blasphemy about the old VAs.

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And geoffry not to get off topic but i really dont think it matters who lied/missinformed or misunderstood and who did what, we all want the show back as it was and things happen along the road thats just how life is. Its best to just get back up and continue on. After all thats what pokemon has taught me, To push aside anything bad and keep on running towards my goals!!!

It may not matter to you, but it matters to me a lot. I hate liars. I hate people who give false information. I hate people who lie to cause problems for people. But mostly, I hate people who abuse the trust of others to take advantage of them, and that's how I've been feeling lately about the old VAs. Something's going on. The VAs have been making so many contradictions, that I can't tell fact from fiction anymore.

I've been betrayed by many people in my life, some of them who I would've trusted with my very life. If it really turns out that the VAs have been making up stories and giving us lies and half-truths, I'm gone. And one more thing: If they really did lie, then I don't think they deserve to have their roles back. It's very unprofessional to do something like this, and it sickens me to think that the people we've been supporting and trying to help have just been using us.

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How have they been hiding anything from us or lying to us?

Well, if I understand Lisa correctly, Rachael Lillis didn't want anyone from SOVA to know. Mistress Puff only told Lisa because Lisa promised she'd keep quiet about it.

Also, shame on you Lisa! How could you hide this from us!? I know you made a promise, but you're our leader! You could've hinted us about this, or discussed it with Rachael, but no. You had to hide it from everyone at SOVA.

Guys, I'm quickly losing faith in SOVA. It's not that I'm losing confidence in it, but rather the lack of trust between the members of SOVA, its leader, and the original VAs.


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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 4:18 am

I guess this news does mean that the stuff they said about the contracts not existing and not being important might not have been true... but that doesn't mean they have been using us. The VAs have had good reasons for everything they have done. I don't think they are using us just because they don't tell us everything.
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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 4:32 am

They should be telling us everything though. They should be trusting us. They have no reason not to tell us everything they know. There's only one "good" reason why they would hide this from us, but I'm not sure if that's the case or not.

Also, if there's anything I learned from the people who lied to me, the most important is that for every lie that's found, there's thousands more behind that lie.

I think I'm gonna need some rest. I feel very hurt and confused by all this, especially from Lisa's promise to hide this from everyone. I can't believe our very leader wasn't hesitant to hide this from us.
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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 4:47 am

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They should be telling us everything though. They should be trusting us. They have no reason not to tell us everything they know. There's only one "good" reason why they would hide this from us, but I'm not sure if that's the case or not.

Also, if there's anything I learned from the people who lied to me, the most important is that for every lie that's found, there's thousands more behind that lie.

The lies aren't hurting anyone though... infact, we wouldn't be as far along as we are now without a the lies maybe the VAs thought we wouldn't fight as hard if we knew everything. If they have been lying to us, it's because they needed to.
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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 4:54 am

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Well, if I understand Lisa correctly, Rachael Lillis didn't want anyone from SOVA to know. Mistress Puff only told Lisa because Lisa promised she'd keep quiet about it.

Also, shame on you Lisa! How could you hide this from us!? I know you made a promise, but you're our leader! You could've hinted us about this, or discussed it with Rachael, but no. You had to hide it from everyone at SOVA.
Woah, woah, you need to calm yourself down, Geoff!

First of all, Mistress Puff told me this information because she knew that she could fully trust me with it, and that I wouldn't "advertise" it anywhere or post it on Bulbagarden.

Second, Puff asked me to keep this a secret only to respect Rachael Lillis' wishes. I see nothing wrong with that.

And finally, I only kept this information from you guys for a few days. Because I only just found out about it on Saturday, the 14th (which is when I received that email).

It's not like I've been keeping information from SOVA for months or anything, so I see no reason why you have to jump on my case about this, Geoff. O_O


Also, no offense Geoff, but I think you're taking the "someone's lying" thing way too seriously. For example, suppose that you were to write an email to Veronica or Maddie, claiming that they had lied to SOVA the entire time about EVERYTHING (the contract situation, and why the VA switch happened). Suppose that you made these accusations and then you find out you're actually wrong? You do realize that you would hurt their feelings, right?

Look, I'm not saying that you are completely wrong about your assumption that someone's lying, and I'm also not saying that you're completely right either. Because honestly, I don't know....

All I know is that, Rachael Lillis being hired by Pokemon USA is a good thing for us, SOVA members. Because this gives us hope that perhaps someday, Pokemon USA and DuArt may actually understand what SOVA has been trying to ask them for the past 2 years. And hopefully, someday soon, the original cast will be working on the Pokemon USA dub and they'll get their original roles back too. That's what I want, and I know that's what everyone in SOVA wants.


But anyway, Geoff, I know that you were only just making hypothetical statements here and you didn't mean to cause any harm. But, as the leader of SOVA, I cannot allow anyone to "let our hopes down" if you know what I mean.

So please, Geoff, we don't need to hear anymore of your claims that the original cast has lied to us. Quite honestly, I find your claims to be depressing. However, if we find out that that really was the case, then we'll deal with the problem then.

But as for right now, we're just going to wait and see what happens (and of course, work on our current SOVA projects).


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The lies aren't hurting anyone though... infact, we wouldn't be as far along as we are now without a the lies maybe the VAs thought we wouldn't fight as hard if we knew everything. If they have been lying to us, it's because they needed to.
Yes! I couldn't agree with you more! ^^

But anyway, I personally believe the VAs are not lying to us. They weren't lying to us before when the switch happened, and they certainly aren't lying to us now. In fact, I'm sure that the original VAs know just how much we (SOVA) care about them, and therefore, they would NEVER lie to us about anything.

Well, that's my opinion, anyway. And you can disagree with me if you want, but even so, my opinion is never going to change. XD

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 5:19 am

I agree Lisa. They VAs just can't be lying to us. It is impossible. They care for all of SOVA and all the effort we have put into getting them back on the show.
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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 5:22 am

Okay guys, just to be sure we dont start anymore fights, let's just drop the whole subject of whether they're lying or not altogether. At the moment, it doesn't matter. What matters is that Rachael has gotten a job on the new dub. To me personally, this shows that she cares enough about the show to go and audition for it two years after being fired in the manner that she was.

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 5:35 am

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The lies aren't hurting anyone though... infact, we wouldn't be as far along as we are now without a the lies maybe the VAs thought we wouldn't fight as hard if we knew everything. If they have been lying to us, it's because they needed to.

The lies are hurting me. I absolutely hate being lied to. You have no idea how much hurt I've felt from being lied to from people that I trusted. And why would they need to lie? There's only three reasons why they would possibly need to do so. One, they signed a non-disclosure agreement, meaning they couldn't tell us anything (but I think they would've mentioned that by now), two, they don't trust us at all, or three, they wanted their jobs back so bad or they hated PUSA for firing them that they made up all these stories so that we would harass PUSA until they gave their jobs back. Personally, I think it's the second reason.

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First of all, Mistress Puff told me this information because she knew that she could fully trust me with it, and that I wouldn't "advertise" it anywhere or post it on Bulbagarden.

This tells me two things. One, you don't trust us, and two, you're not afraid to hide things from the very organization you're leading. Oh, and to top it all off, you broke the promise too.

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Second, Puff asked me to keep this a secret only to respect Rachael Lillis' wishes. I see nothing wrong with that.

Oh, you don't? Because I certainly do. Why would Rachael need to keep this a secret from us? Here we are, fighting tooth and nail to get them back on the show as their original characters, and they can't tell us this stuff?

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And finally, I only kept this information from you guys for a few days. Because I only just found out about it on Saturday, the 14th (which is when I received that email).

It's not like I've been keeping information from SOVA for months or anything, so I see no reason why you have to jump on my case about this, Geoff. O_O

That may be true, but don't you think that the sooner you've told us this information, the better? People would've been more cheerful and more motivated earlier.

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Also, no offense Geoff, but I think you're taking the "someone's lying" thing way too seriously. For example, suppose that you were to write an email to Veronica or Maddie, claiming that they had lied to SOVA the entire time about EVERYTHING (the contract situation, and why the VA switch happened). Suppose that you made these accusations and then you find out you're actually wrong? You do realize that you would hurt their feelings, right?

Lisa, you have to understand how I am. I consider trust to be the most important thing to have between people. I've had my trust abused and I've been manipulated by people who only cared about their own selfish gains. Because of this, I'm incredibly cautious about others. That's why I'm suspicious about the old VAs. And yes, I do realize that I could hurt their feelings, and that's a risk I'm taking. But again, I'm not claiming they are. I don't have any factual proof that says they're liars. But there's just so many inconsistancies, that I can't just turn a blind eye to all of this.

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But anyway, Geoff, I know that you were only just making hypothetical statements here and you didn't mean to cause any harm. But, as the leader of SOVA, I cannot allow anyone to "let our hopes down" if you know what I mean.

I understand that. But as the leader of SOVA, you also shouldn't hide things from your own members. You could've had Misstress Puff negotiate with Rachael to allow this to be told to us. This is a huge breakthrough for SOVA, so why couldn't why now about our own exploits? And to make matters worse, you didn't even keep your promise in the end. You just went ahead and thought it would be okay because Mike Pollock had said something about this, but you still broke your promise.

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So please, Geoff, we don't need to hear anymore of your claims that the original cast has lied to us. Quite honestly, I find your claims to be depressing. However, if we find out that that really was the case, then we'll deal with the problem then.

Well, I'm not claiming they are, but I'm claiming that something's just not making sense. Also, I apologize if I'm depressing you. I'm getting pretty depressed myself about all this, and I'm so confused, I just don't know what to think.
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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 5:58 am

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 6:01 am

Well, Geoff, it would probably help us a lot, if you tried to be less-suspicious of the original cast. ^^;

Because quite frankly, I don't think everyone is "out to get you". I mean, I understand that you've known people who you thought you could trust and they betrayed you, but....that doesn't mean that EVERYONE is lying.

All I'm saying is, try to calm down. And by the way, I don't think the original cast had any bad intentions, either. So if they were keeping things from SOVA (like about recently getting hired or whatever), it's probably because they're not supposed to say anything, or because they're simply afraid they would get in trouble for doing something like that.

EDIT: Actually, it's probably what Rachel just said. Contracts with DuArt. XD!!


But anyway, let's just drop all of this, okay? There is no point in causing a fight within SOVA, especially since we'd be fighting over something that's hypothetical anyway (your suspicions about the original cast and everything).

As for what Rachael Lillis said, well, I don't know what she said because Puff didn't show me the email. But anyway, here is what Mistress Puff told me in the email that I received from her:
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Heey!! I am so sorry not to get back to you sooner -- Things are still insane and I have been so dead lately from the lack of energy. I need to get my booty into shape and come online more often! xD

I am really trying to see this all as positive as I can.... Even though I am so sad to hear that it hurts Veronica. ;-; Actually... I haven't heard from Rachael regarding those other 4Kids VAs just yet -- But she had emailed me a few days ago!!! And.. (I hope that she won't get upset about me telling you this -- So I really ask that you keep this between us for a while! <333 I know I can trust you) Rachael is actually going to be on Pokemon -- She said she auditioned for a part and she got it -- It's for the gym leader Maylene and she's going to be in about 3 episodes. She said that it was a job... If anything I think it shows a lot of spirit -- But more importantly I think it's beautiful that she doesn't have to deal with TAJ. I actually met the new voice director at the NYCC and he seemed like a nice guy!!! I just wish that Rachael was able to audition for her former roles -- You know? But yeah.. Just keep this between us! I don't want everyone to know about it and break my trust with Rachael..

Thanks for emailing Maddie! <33

Take care!! I am so sorry for taking forever to reply! <3

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 6:21 am

What I think is when Mistress Puff e-mailed Rachael, Rachael trusted her enough to, if you think about it, break the secrecy of her contract and tell her she got the part. Keep in mind Geoffery that breaking any part of a contract is NOT good at all, so if DuArt found out, chances are it would not be good. But she has gotten to know Mistress Puff very well over the past year or two and they have met in person a few times, so Rachael fully understood the fact that Puff has her best intentions in mind and wouldn't leak this news to the public. Rachael wasn't just telling it to some random person - she was telling it to somehow whom she knew she could fully trust. Honestly, I don't think she would've told Lisa about it. No offence to Lisa of course, because we know how dedicated she is to SOVA, and I'm sure Rachael knows too. However, leaking information this confidential to ANYONE is a huge risk, but she chose to do it anyway just to make a fan happy.

So my point is, how I view it, Rachael has just shown a LOT of respect for the Pokemon anime (after going and auditioning for a part 2 years after being fired as she was) and trust and appreciation for her fans support over the issue that she would go and break part of the contract just to tell them something they'd find out in a few weeks time. Honestly, I really respect Rachael for all of this, and it really makes me happy to see her love for Pokemon.

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 6:33 am

*applauds*

That was very well said, Rachel!

I agree with you 100%! ^_^

This is indeed wonderful, because it shows just how much Rachael loves Pokemon. I mean, she cares so much about Pokemon and all of her fans, that she simply wants to work on the show again (even if she can't play Jessie or any of her old characters at this time, it was still worth it to her).

And I truly appreciate what Rachael has done for us.

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 6:34 am

Wow! This is GREAT news! : D Thanks for posting this Lisa! I am so happy that Racheal Lillis will be back on Pokemon! She is such an amazing voice actress.

Guys, I don't think fighting is going to solve all our problems, okay? So...why don't we all move forward and forget about anything that ever happened with the lying situation. Please, it really does bring down the other members... Sad

So... we made progress...yay! Okay, so now is crunch time! We need to e-mail, write letters, send messages, make phone calls, and anything else dealing with SOVA to DuArt and make sure they also hire Veronica, Maddie, and hopefully Eric onto not only the show; but as their original characters aswell. Who's with me!?

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 6:55 am

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Guys, I don't think fighting is going to solve all our problems, okay? So...why don't we all move forward and forget about anything that ever happened with the lying situation. Please, it really does bring down the other members... Sad
Ah, I don't think we have to worry about that anymore. Geoff was the only one who was fighting. However, he shouldn't involve SOVA in all of this....

Geoff, you know that you can just PM me on Mirc , if you want to discuss this "suspicious" thing with me further. Feel free to do that, if you desire.


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Wow! This is GREAT news! : D Thanks for posting this Lisa! I am so happy that Racheal Lillis will be back on Pokemon! She is such an amazing voice actress.
Aww, you're welcome, Aipom Fan! ^^

And yes, Rachael is a very good VA! I'm excited to see her on Pokemon again too! : D


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So... we made progress...yay! Okay, so now is crunch time! We need to e-mail, write letters, send messages, make phone calls, and anything else dealing with SOVA to DuArt and make sure they also hire Veronica, Maddie, and hopefully Eric onto not only the show; but as their original characters aswell. Who's with me!?
I'm with you, of course!! : D

And don't forget the Pokeball Project! I'm confident that if we continue to send hundreds of Pokeballs their way, then we'll make some excellent progress.

Also, be sure to send letters and emails too, because they are very helpful as well! But remember, be careful when you're making phone calls (you don't wanna call them too often, otherwise it'll look as if we're just harrassing them - and then they'll start ignoring our phone calls, just like what happened with Pokemon USA).

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 7:38 am

Who can forget the Pokeball Project? Lol.. I am actually having my father take me to send in my very first box of Pokeballs! Yay, I'm so happy I'm helping out! : D There's plenty in there to shock them for sure!

Yeah, you're right! making too many phone calls is a bit too much. I completely agree! Okay, so let's get started with this whole mess... Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 8:29 am

Yeah guys crunch time!! Pokeballs will be continued to sent thats for sure now!!!!
Thanks aipom fan for helping out and thanks to everyone for helping out too this is a leap towards our goal.

And lisa thank you also for being a good leader and i understand fully why u had to keep that awsome bit of info a secret for a while. WHilst Geoffry is handling this in a different manner and i have no offence to how its being taken, im very confident that the va's do what they do for a reason.

I have 100% faith in SOVA, Our leaders, and most importantly Our Beloved Voice Actors!

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PostSubject: Re: Good news regarding Rachael Lillis! Please read!   19th June 2008, 8:45 am

Also Geoffrey, please watch your language. This isn't the first time I saw this and if you're gonna drop F bombs, at least censor them somewhat okay? This isn't #Bulbagarden. Thanks.

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